Nick

@nick@shore.me.uk

Mostly Retired. Consultant. Ex Managing Director. Ex CTO.

Mikrotik, DNS, Routing, IPv6
Live Sound Engineer. Cornet Player

Based in Debenham, Suffolk UK
Website https://shore.me.uk

178 following, 250 followers

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[?]Terence Eden [He/Him/♂/男] » 🌐
@Edent@mastodon.social

🆕 blog! “Android now stops you sharing your location in photos”

My wife and I run OpenBenches. It's a niche little site which lets people share photos of memorial benches and their locations. Most modern phones embed a geolocation within the photo's metadata, so we use that information to put the photos on a map.

Google's…

👀 Read more: shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/04/andro

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    [?]Terence Eden’s Blog » 🌐
    @blog@shkspr.mobi

    Android now stops you sharing your location in photos

    shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/04/andro

    My wife and I run OpenBenches. It's a niche little site which lets people share photos of memorial benches and their locations. Most modern phones embed a geolocation within the photo's metadata, so we use that information to put the photos on a map.

    Google's Android has now broken that.

    On the web, we used to use:

    <input type="file" accept="image/jpeg">
    

    That opened the phone's photo picker and let the use upload a geotagged photo. But a while ago Google deliberately broke that.

    Instead, we were encourage to use the file picker:

    <input type="file">
    

    That opened the default file manager. This had the unfortunate side-effect of allowing the user to upload any file, rather than just photos. But it did allow the EXIF metadata through unmolested. Then Google broke that as well.

    Using a "Progressive Web App" doesn't work either.

    So, can users transfer their photos via Bluetooth or QuickShare? No. That's now broken as well.

    You can't even directly share via email without the location being stripped away.

    Literally the only way to get a photo with geolocation intact is to plug in a USB cable, copy the photo to your computer, and then upload it via a desktop web browser?

    Why?!?!?

    Because Google run an anticompetitive monopoly on their dominant mobile operating system.

    Privacy.

    There's a worry that users don't know they're taking photos with geolocation enabled. If you post a cute picture of your kid / jewellery / pint then there's a risk that a ne’er-do-well could find your exact location.

    Most social media services are sensible and strip the location automatically. If you try to send a geotagged photo to Facebook / Mastodon / BlueSky / WhatsApp / etc, they default to not showing the location. You can add it in manually if you want, but anyone downloading your photo won't see the geotag.

    And, you know, I get it. Google doesn't want the headline "Stalkers found me, kidnapped my baby, and stole my wedding ring - how a little known Android feature puts you in danger!"

    But it is just so tiresome that Google never consults their community. There was no advance notice of this change that I could find. Just a bunch of frustrated users in my inbox blaming me for breaking something.

    I don't know what the answer is. Perhaps a pop up saying "This website wants to see the location of your photos. Yes / No / Always / Never"? People get tired of constant prompts and the wording will never be clear enough for most users.

    It looks like the only option available will be to develop a native Android app (and an iOS one?!) with all the cost, effort, and admin that entails. Android apps have a special permission for accessing geolocation in images.

    If anyone has a working way to let Android web-browsers access the full geolocation EXIF metadata of photos uploaded on the web, please drop a comment in the box.

    In the meantime, please leave a +1 on this HTML Spec comment.

    UK map covered in thousands of markers.

    Alt...UK map covered in thousands of markers.

      [?]Baa 🐑 » 🔓
      @Baa@mk.absturztau.be

      ukpol (good news) [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

      I didn't realise but the new Workers Rights' bill passed in December ​:ai_yay:
      It revoked the Tory restrictions on striking
      :ai_yay:
      This month it also enabled employee protections from day 1 instead of year 2, which is really convenient as I just started new job
      :menharayippie:

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        [?]Russ Garrett [he/they] » 🔓
        @russss@chaos.social

        ukpol (good news) [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

        @Baa also statutory sick pay from the first day of illness! business.gov.uk/campaign/emplo

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          [?]Nick » 🔓
          @nick@shore.me.uk

          ukpol (good news) [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@russss@chaos.social @Baa@mk.absturztau.be but only SSP why not actual pay ??

            [?]Terence Eden [He/Him/♂/男] » 🌐
            @Edent@mastodon.social

            Checked in to Shaftesbury Theatre, 210 Shaftesbury Ave, United Kingdom

            Please can someone remind me what the Internet is for?

            swarmapp.com/user/56367/checki

            A photo of the location.

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              [?]Nick » 🌐
              @nick@shore.me.uk

              @Edent@mastodon.social we saw that last week, it was excellent

                [?]Neil Brown [he/him/his] » 🔓
                @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                @Edent

                Trekkie Monster!

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                  [?]Terence Eden [He/Him/♂/男] » 🔓
                  @Edent@mastodon.social

                  @neil so cuddly! And not even slightly problematic.

                    [?]Dusana Mykola » 🌐
                    @dusana2255@mastodon.social

                    @Edent Oh, classic! The Internet is basically a giant, chaotic playground for information, cat videos, and arguments you never knew you wanted to have. More seriously, it’s for connecting people, sharing knowledge, entertainment, work, and, occasionally, helping you remember why you walked into a theatre in the first place.

                      [?]Steve Bannister » 🌐
                      @milgrim@mas.to

                      @Edent my favourite show, and I'm unrepentant in that.

                        [?]Jonathan B ✈️🪄👨🏻‍💻 » 🌐
                        @jmb@mastodon.me.uk

                        @Edent Just slightly jealous! A fabulous show!

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                          [?]Terence Eden [He/Him/♂/男] » 🌐
                          @Edent@mastodon.social

                          @jmb still some cheap tix available

                            [?]Michael Horne » 🌐
                            @recantha@mastodon.social

                            @Edent Enjoy! Love that show!

                              [?]Terence Eden [He/Him/♂/男] » 🌐
                              @Edent@mastodon.social

                              Some delightful updates to in London. Most sensible, some shocking, all hilarious.

                              If you've seen the show before, you already know which bit got the biggest cheer of the evening.

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                                [?]Richard Bairwell » 🌐
                                @rbairwell@mastodon.org.uk

                                @Edent Is Gary still in it or was that one of the changes?

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                                  [?]Terence Eden [He/Him/♂/男] » 🌐
                                  @Edent@mastodon.social

                                  @rbairwell Gary's still in there. They've changed his introductory song and tweaked a few other bits. But basically still the same.

                                    [?]Michael Horne » 🌐
                                    @recantha@mastodon.social

                                    @Edent Was the cheer "only for now" by any chance? 😁

                                      [?]Leon Brocard » 🌐
                                      @orangeacme@fosstodon.org

                                      @Edent :ac_music: The internet is really really great :ac_music:

                                        [?]Kerry Buckley » 🌐
                                        @kerryb@mastodon.social

                                        The search engine seems to have been removed from our corporate intranet. Normally this kind of thing would annoy me, but in many ways this is an improvement on the search functionality we’ve had for the past 20-odd years.

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                                        [?]John Patterson » 🌐
                                        @JigsawPieces@mastodon.social

                                        @kerryb I don't think I can remember a single occasion where I've found it useful. Amazing.

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                                          [?]Kerry Buckley » 🌐
                                          @kerryb@mastodon.social

                                          @JigsawPieces It really was a triumph to keep something so useless going for so long. And for a solved problem that we take for granted in the real world.

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                                            [?]Neil Brown [he/him/his] » 🌐
                                            @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                            Have you ever...

                                            Used a telephone book:7670
                                            Spoken to a (human) telephone operator:4588
                                            Reversed charges on a call:2953
                                            Made a call from pay phone / phone box:7292
                                            Received a call on a pay phone / phone box:2862
                                            Used a phone card:6032
                                            Dialled from one exchange to another to route a call:1049
                                            Used a rotary dial phone:7197

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                                            [?]Troed Sångberg » 🌐
                                            @troed@swecyb.com

                                            @neil hah

                                            /actual way back when checking in

                                            Dialing from one floor to another routing the call via Japan gave a nice two second delay.

                                              [?]Richard [He/him/they/oi] » 🌐
                                              @Yorkshiregeek@mastodon.social

                                              @neil
                                              all yes, does this make me old?

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                                                [?]Greem (Graeme. Not Graham!) » 🌐
                                                @greem@cyberplace.social

                                                @neil Yep. Every one of them.

                                                  [?]Snaprails [He, Him,] » 🌐
                                                  @snaprails@cupoftea.social

                                                  @neil I've done all of those though there's an obvious reason for that 🙂

                                                    [?]Paul Richards [they / them] » 🌐
                                                    @pauldoo@mastodon.scot

                                                    @neil I grew up in a house with a rotary phone long after most people already had button phones. It confused the heck out of my friends when they tried to use it. :D

                                                      [?]Andrew Deacon » 🌐
                                                      @aadeacon@mastodon.social

                                                      @neil yes to 1,4,5 and 7 but i am 75 (nearly 76 ) so i grew up with these things.

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                                                        [?]ARGVMI~1.PIF » 🌐
                                                        @argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                        @neil

                                                        New Mastodon Poll Reveals 87% of Mastodonians Are Old AF

                                                          [?]rk: it’s hyphen-minus actually » 🌐
                                                          @rk@mastodon.well.com

                                                          @neil

                                                          What I’m learning is that I am likely to crumble to dust soon.

                                                            [?]k8quinn 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇲🇽 🇪🇺 » 🌐
                                                            @k8quinn@social.vivaldi.net

                                                            @neil

                                                            I not only spoke to a telephone operator, I WAS one (at a car dealership). So was my wife - that's where we met.

                                                              [?]Graham Sutherland / Polynomial » 🔓
                                                              @gsuberland@chaos.social

                                                              @neil all but the phone card and exchange

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                                                                [?]Graham Sutherland / Polynomial » 🔓
                                                                @gsuberland@chaos.social

                                                                @neil wait does the phone card one mean the type for payphones, or does it include cards used to top up PAYG mobile phones? cos I definitely used the latter.

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                                                                  [?]Derick Rethans » 🔓
                                                                  @derickr@phpc.social

                                                                  @neil You could just have asked how old we are 😂

                                                                    [?]I am PJ🇵🇹 :an: :oc: :nonazis: » 🌐
                                                                    @TheForeignAgent@social.taker.fr

                                                                    @neil I did all, Am I so old 🤔😱🤪😂😂

                                                                      [?]Dr Ro Smith » 🌐
                                                                      @Rhube@wandering.shop

                                                                      @neil Most of these. Not sure about the phone card. I don't *think* so, but I'm not entirely sure.

                                                                      I've talked to operators but I don't think been routed from one system to another, unless this includes dialling 9 to dial out, or being forwarded by a receptionist?

                                                                      Never received a phone call in a phone booth, but used to use them regularly to call parents as a child and teenager.

                                                                        [?]int%rmitt]nt sig^al. ...~!...) [Use the ones that correspond to how you percieve me.] » 🌐
                                                                        @nrmacdonald@mastodon.social

                                                                        @neil
                                                                        My auntie was a switchboard operator on a joint operations air base during The War, she had to speak English AND American.

                                                                          [?]Bradley » 🌐
                                                                          @bradley@techhub.social

                                                                          @neil ha unfortunately I still remember my ATT phone card number

                                                                            [?]Colin the Mathmo [He/Him] » 🌐
                                                                            @ColinTheMathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                                                                            @neil I have also used a pay phone on a train.

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                                                                              [?]Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK » 🌐
                                                                              @vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                                                                              @ColinTheMathmo @neil 100% on all of them. I also remember the loud "cuckoo" tone on inbound calls to a payphone (to prevent reverse charge calls being made via the operator), also during late 1980a if you tried some calls on level 1 such as 16 (Dial a disc) and another one (it was some number like 159) you would just hear a loud cuckoo sound from *inside* the phone box and the call would be abruptly cleared down (presumably this is because a metering pulse had come down the line but you hadn't put any money in)

                                                                                [?]Damien » 🌐
                                                                                @damien@layer8.space

                                                                                @neil used a telephone book for which purpose?

                                                                                  [?]Stephen Paulger » 🌐
                                                                                  @aimaz@mstdn.social

                                                                                  @neil I am curious what it means to dial from one exchange to another.

                                                                                  I probably only called local numbers as a kid and dialing other areas when I was older was always just preceding the number with a 4 or 5 digit area code, did it work differently before?

                                                                                    [?]Cecilia Bell » 🌐
                                                                                    @CeciliaBell@mastodon.social

                                                                                    @neil Yes to all, plus for a summer I actually was a (human) telephone operator. Those overnight shifts were something else.

                                                                                      [?]Paul_IPv6 [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                      @paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                                                                                      @neil

                                                                                      if you said yes to more than two of these, you're overdue to schedule your next colonoscopy... :)

                                                                                      (which reminds me...)

                                                                                        [?]Jessamyn » 🌐
                                                                                        @jessamyn@glammr.us

                                                                                        @neil Most I'm not sure what "Dialled from one exchange to another" means specifically, maybe a UK thing?

                                                                                        I did buy this bad boy new in box from my local thrift store last week. I have a Bluetooth dongle in my house so that I can make calls with it. Fake dialtone and everything!

                                                                                        an old beige AT&T Trimline phone with manual. It has a curly cord and everything.

                                                                                        Alt...an old beige AT&T Trimline phone with manual. It has a curly cord and everything.

                                                                                          [?]Extreme Electronics » 🌐
                                                                                          @Extelec@mstdn.social

                                                                                          @neil and made free international calls, by a number of methods.

                                                                                            [?]Slættaratindur 🌅 » 🌐
                                                                                            @slaettaratindur@piaille.fr

                                                                                            @neil "Were you alive 40 years ago?" :)

                                                                                              [?]Court Cantrell does not comply » 🌐
                                                                                              @courtcan@mastodon.social

                                                                                              @neil I've done all but two (reversed charges & dialed from one exchange to another).

                                                                                              I am an old.

                                                                                                [?]Milcom Miasma » 🌐
                                                                                                @mmiasma@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                                                                @neil

                                                                                                7 out of 8 boxes ticked. <sigh>

                                                                                                  [?]Girl on the Net » 🌐
                                                                                                  @girlonthenet@mastodon.social

                                                                                                  @neil when I was a teenager, we all used to hang around at a park on a corner by a phone box. Our mums all had the phone number of that phone box so they could ring us and let us know when it was time to come home for tea.

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                                                                                                    [?]Andrew [he/him/any] » 🌐
                                                                                                    @andrewt@mathstodon.xyz

                                                                                                    @neil I've received a call on a pay phone exactly once. It wasn't for me, the box was just ringing so I answered it. The caller asked for Sarah. I said "sorry, nobody carried Sarah lives here" and they rather surprised me by asking "are you sure?"

                                                                                                      [?]Garrett Wollman [I use he/him (or il/lui when I try to write French) but they (or iel) is fine too.] » 🌐
                                                                                                      @wollman@mastodon.social

                                                                                                      @neil I still have the last phone book that was delivered here, maybe 15 years ago now. Probably not much good for anything other than holding up a potted plant.

                                                                                                        [?]jlapoutre » 🌐
                                                                                                        @jlapoutre@mastodon.online

                                                                                                        @neil Yes I know, I'm feeling old!

                                                                                                          [?]Shark Attak » 🌐
                                                                                                          @SharkAttak@masto.ai

                                                                                                          @neil Stop reminding me I'm old, will ya?

                                                                                                            [?]FJ Brodie » 🌐
                                                                                                            @FibroJedi@gamepad.club

                                                                                                            All but one of the above. I never did the exchange thingy. But the rest, yeah, in my early teens.

                                                                                                            And only reverse charged my parents, with their agreement in advance!

                                                                                                            [?]Markus » 🌐
                                                                                                            @MarkusDEL@ieji.de

                                                                                                            @neil I'm still using a rotary dial phone. Its in daily use.

                                                                                                              [?]Heckin' Chonker » 🌐
                                                                                                              @HeckinChonker@mastodon.social

                                                                                                              @neil It used to be expensive to make calls outside your area code!

                                                                                                                [?]Zazzoo 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                @zazzoo@mstdn.ca

                                                                                                                @neil All of the above!

                                                                                                                I'd also throw in "Used a payphone for free using a tone generator" and "avoided long distance fees using a DISA system" 😀

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                                                                                                                  [?]HighlandLawyer » 🔓
                                                                                                                  @HighlandLawyer@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                  @neil
                                                                                                                  Never reversed charges because always had emergency 2p/5p/10p/BT phonecard to use.

                                                                                                                    [?]AlgoCompSynth by znmeb 🇺🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                    @AlgoCompSynth@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                    @neil Proud to say yes to every single one. ***And*** made long distance calls when they could only be connected by a human operator!!

                                                                                                                    Bonus points - a two-party phone line!!

                                                                                                                      [?]Rob Williamson [He/him/his] » 🌐
                                                                                                                      @eswag@dju.social

                                                                                                                      @neil

                                                                                                                      I feel like I occupy the demographic category "dust" when I read this. I've done most of them.

                                                                                                                        [?]kauer [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                        @kauer@aus.social

                                                                                                                        @neil We had no phone for quite a while. When the phone line came through the valley, we were on party line with a few households on it. The phone was a big black thing; no dial, just a crank on the side. We were two longs and a short. Anyone (or everyone) in the group could listen to any conversation. For numbers outside the group, we did one long ring and asked Mona Ingram to connect us...

                                                                                                                          [?]Pinchy63 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                          @Pinchy63@ottawa.place

                                                                                                                          @neil
                                                                                                                          I actually worked a switchboard for the military. One of my favourite jobs.

                                                                                                                            [?]Seth Galitzer » 🌐
                                                                                                                            @sgsax@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                            @neil Why yes, I am GenX. Why do you ask? Also, you missed "made a collect call from a pay phone."

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                                                                                                                              [?]Marion 🦋☀️ » 🌐
                                                                                                                              @Sagesse@norden.social

                                                                                                                              @neil
                                                                                                                              Hey, I'm older than the internet 😉😂

                                                                                                                                [?]RevK :verified_r: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                @revk@toot.me.uk

                                                                                                                                @neil Trying to make me feel old. Must try harder.

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                                                                                                                                  [?]Cowboy Who? » 🌐
                                                                                                                                  @CowboyWho@libranigans.com

                                                                                                                                  @neil phone books are boring. Have you ever used a Criss-Cross or City Directory?

                                                                                                                                    [?]Andres [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                    @Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it

                                                                                                                                    @neil There's a bell-curve graph here with age as the X-axis. The younger you are, the fewer of these things you've done. As you get to older folks, there's more and more things they've done. And then as you approach even older folks who can't remember which of them they've actually done, the graph curves back down towards 0.

                                                                                                                                      [?]Luke » 🌐
                                                                                                                                      @lpl@metalhead.club

                                                                                                                                      @neil My grand parents refused to stop using their rotary dial phone untill the Dutch telecom operator (the now defunct PTT) gave them a dial tone phone because they kept crashing the local exchange that couldn’t handle the ticking anymore. Resulting in a cascading failure.

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                                                                                                                                        [?]Nick » 🌐
                                                                                                                                        @nick@shore.me.uk

                                                                                                                                        @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk So yes all of those 😀

                                                                                                                                          [?]Mr. Bill » 🌐
                                                                                                                                          @bmacDonald94@hostux.social

                                                                                                                                          @neil ~ In the US, we could dial 555-1212 and get the correct time

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                                                                                                                                            [?]Jaimie's Erotica » 🌐
                                                                                                                                            @Jaimieserotica@kinkycats.org

                                                                                                                                            @neil None of the above.
                                                                                                                                            I feel like I've been wasting my life...

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                                                                                                                                              [?]Trev :emacs: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                              @trevdev@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                              @neil

                                                                                                                                              - [X] Bypassed having to pay at a pay-phone by shorting out the receiver

                                                                                                                                                [?]Werner » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                @worldwidewerner@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                @neil

                                                                                                                                                I remember that I had this plastic card with information from a phone operator

                                                                                                                                                I could go to a pay phone and
                                                                                                                                                * Call a central
                                                                                                                                                * Input a long customer number
                                                                                                                                                * Input a code
                                                                                                                                                * Input a phone number I wanted to call

                                                                                                                                                And the charge of the call was sent to my parents phone bill.

                                                                                                                                                  [?]Chris Pitts » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                  @thirstybear@agilodon.social

                                                                                                                                                  @neil Full house! What do I win?

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                                                                                                                                                    [?]Lydia Conwell » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                    @lydiaconwell@todon.nl

                                                                                                                                                    @neil This is just another way of saying 'Are you old?'

                                                                                                                                                      [?]Nerd That Talks Good » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                      @JetSm00th@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                      @neil “I have a collect call from Bob We’adababieetsaboi.”

                                                                                                                                                        [?]Ross Wintle » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                        @ross@crikey.social

                                                                                                                                                        @neil Also, I’ve used Mondex to withdraw cash onto a cash smart card using a pay phone.

                                                                                                                                                        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondex

                                                                                                                                                        And I’ve made a call TO a pay phone/phone box.

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                                                                                                                                                          [?]tanavit » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                          @tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                                                                                                                                                          @neil

                                                                                                                                                          Are you trying to implement an age certification procedure ?

                                                                                                                                                          🤪

                                                                                                                                                            [?]Paul » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                            @pwaring@social.xk7.net

                                                                                                                                                            @neil Okay, this poll has made me feel REALLY old.

                                                                                                                                                              [?]Ba_Dang » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                              @Ba_Dang@jasette.facil.services

                                                                                                                                                              @neil

                                                                                                                                                              Real life story: I was a student and on my way for a job interview. I got lost and ended up in at the bus terminal. There was a phone box there so I tried to call the potential employer but when I put a coin in the hole, about 30$ in 25cents went out! 😆

                                                                                                                                                              I'll never forget the winning sensation... 🤣✌️

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                                                                                                                                                                [?]Parker Morse [he/him/his] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                @flashesofpanic@ruby.social

                                                                                                                                                                @neil The Olympic marathoner Don Kardong, in his later career as a reporter, once failed to gain access to the press truck at the Boston Marathon. He compensated by going out the day before the marathon and writing down the numbers of a series of phone booths along the course, then calling them from his hotel room during the race and, if anyone picked up, asking them to describe what was going on. The resulting article was titled "Thirty Phone Booths To Boston".

                                                                                                                                                                  [?]h0h0kam » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                  @hohokam@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                                                                                                                                  @neil I dislike how hold this makes me feel

                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Rofdo » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                    @Rofdo@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                    @neil never done any of those... So i cant vote :D

                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Nu Modular » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                      @numodular@c.im

                                                                                                                                                                      @neil I learned Spin Physics by learning rotary phone, by rote.

                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Emsquared » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                        @emsquared@social.coop

                                                                                                                                                                        @neil We could often lift up the receiver and hear somebody else's conversation. Exciting times (sort of). Crossed lines innit.

                                                                                                                                                                          [?]schamspeare » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                          @schamspeare@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                          @neil Tell me your relative age without telling me your relative age.

                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Distractions » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                            @distractions@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                            @neil specifically, I made many calls *to* public phone boxes, because it was the only way to make a call to my girlfriend, who was living in a student home in eastern Germany end of the 90s. They didn’t have phones in the student home, but two public phone boxes that could be called in front of the building. For roughly 150 students. Fun times! We often scheduled for past midnight because that was a „low traffic“ time…

                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Randall Lee » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                              @BLTpizza@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                              @neil The only rotary phone I remember using was at the YMCA . This was long after we had push button phones but those black rotary phones were indestructible

                                                                                                                                                                                [?]LisaH » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                @3x10to8mps@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                @neil Yes 😂

                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Stefan Ihringer » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                  @compfu@mograph.social

                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil I remember when we were camping in France with a boy scouts group and made reverse-charge calls home to Germany from a phone booth in Bretagne. We were half a dozen boys in a row and there was a single operator I think and at some point she asked how many more of us are still waiting in line 😁

                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Marquis de Geek » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                    @marquisdegeek@ohai.social

                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil In other news... I am _very_ old...

                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]CT » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                      @cthellis@urusai.social

                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil "Used the collect call trick to tell someone it's time to pick you up, for free"

                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Eli the Bearded » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                        @elithebearded@fed.qaz.red

                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                        [×] Did literal cut and paste work to make camera ready telephone books ("yellow pages")
                                                                                                                                                                                        [×] Can "dial" rotary using the hook button when faced with a dial lock

                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Longspeak » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                          @Longspeak@chirp.enworld.org

                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil Ugh. 6 out of 8.

                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Mitex Leo » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                            @ml@social.mitexleo.one

                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil None 😕

                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]SusannaAuthor Old White Hippie » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                              @susanna@bookstodon.com

                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil You missed one - have you ever used a phone that had NO dial, where an operator connected all calls? Yes, I have.

                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤 [(Mr.-pronouns)] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                @sloanlance@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                I got ⅞ and I think I'll never have the opportunity to get that last ⅛. 💔

                                                                                                                                                                                                I was unsure about "Dialed from one exchange to another…", so I looked it up and I've definitely done it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Lord Caramac the Clueless, KSC » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                  @LordCaramac@discordian.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil I was born in 1975, so yeah.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]JKrotkov » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                    @JKrotkov@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Extra points: placed an international trunk call.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Jim » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                      @jimmorack@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil Should have added Used a party line to the list. Each house had its own special ring so you knew if it was for you or not.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Jenny » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                        @tiamat271@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil my friend used to make collect calls to her mom (which her mom would decline) to let her know it was time to pick us up after school.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        youtu.be/9JxhTnWrKYs

                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]MostlyTato » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                          @MostlyTato@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                          I still have a rotary phone 😲

                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]tnt » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                            @tnt@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil Here (Belgium) you couldn't call pay phones AFAIK, they didn't have numbers printed on them and didn't show any caller ID. So it was always surprising to me as a kid to see people calling payphones in movies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Jak2k 🏳️‍🌈 [he/him || they/them] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                              @jak2k@mastodontech.de

                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil I only did two of these things and that was at .

                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]~n » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                @nblr@chaos.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil The old (western) german railway telephone network had exchanges you could call into via a prefix. Once the prefix was dialled, you could hear an automatic announcement of the location, like "Hamburg! Hamburg! Hamburg!", before being able to dial on.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]RolloTreadway » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @RolloTreadway@beige.party

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil Yes to everything except the thing with routing and multiple exchanges.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]jmht » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @jmht@theatl.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil Why, yes, I AM old, thank you.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Todd Nelson » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @footsteps@sfba.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil apologies if someone already said this, but I remember dialing "popcorn" to find out what time it was. (US thing)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Shamhatt » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @Shamhatt@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil These results make no sense; seems that the only respondents are old gits who seldomly needed to get in touch with their electricity or gas providers.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Extra Lime [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @sun_addict@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I wonder if I used a phone card and I don't remember it. I never had a cellphone, so it seems likely.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Lhepa » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @lhepa@masto.pt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            i never wanted to use internet, it was imposed on me, so I will be disrepectufull, so the answer is fock off and die.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            diehttps://youtu.be/cJLq2W7fvqU

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]IanOB » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @IanOB@mastodon.ie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil I'm ticking ⅞

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]\ˈthē-ˈˈärd-ˌvärk\ [He/Him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @theaardvark@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Oh, shit. I'm old, aren't I?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]jmcunx » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @jmcunx@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What does "Dialed from one exchange to another to route a call" mean ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Until a teenager, there was only 5 numbers to dial. To dial out of town we had to prepend a 2 digit area code. Out of State I have no idea what was needed. If that area-code is "another exchange", then I should have said yes on that one too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Halla Rempt » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @halla@kde.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil The real question is, have you ever, when you where ten, decided to do prank calls on random numbers in the phone book based on their names, and then crossed out the entries you'd pranked with your frie^Wno, that was me on my own.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And then got discovered by your parents because of your meticulous prank call records.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Note: this was in the late seventies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Mike Torr [He/Him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @macronencer@mastodon.scot

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil I'm 60. Like others here, I'm not entirely sure what "Dialled from one exchange to another to route a call" even means... but I've done all the others.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks for making me feel twenty years older than I am. :-|

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]jens persson » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @MrShark@mathstodon.xyz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Been a (human) telephone operator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Pieter » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @superblox@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil 97% used a telephone book!? Are there no people under 30 here?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Tokenizer » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @tokenizer@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil Alright, I don't feel old :) (because I marked options with high percentage; or maybe that means I'm old) anyway, good pool 👍

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]AGF : poemproducer » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @poemproducer@systerserver.town

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil everyone is old here

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]fundamental » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @fundamental@social.treehouse.systems

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil do I get a bonus point for (sort of) owning a whole phone switchboard?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]J4ck [He / Him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @jackryder@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil I 100%'d this challenge AMA.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Bob Thomson » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @bobthomson70@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil not 100% sure about the operator call but think I must have. 70s U.K. kid.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]DebC (She/Her)♿️☮️ » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @DebC@sfba.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil All of the above.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      cartoon of old person who is just spinal cord with a head using a wheelchair.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Alt...cartoon of old person who is just spinal cord with a head using a wheelchair.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]MacCruiskeen » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil Occasionally I'd hear a pay phone ringing with no one nearby. I'd pick up the phone and say "Hello, Frank?" Usually I'd just hear a click.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Nick » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @ratcatcher@beige.party

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You forgot getting calls for free by tapping out the number on the receiver rest of the old black public phones with buttons A and B.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]scmbradley » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Scmbradley@mathstodon.xyz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil when I was a teenager living in Luxembourg, I got locked out of my house. I walked to the big shipping arcade to find the French-English dictionaries, and looked up "locksmith" in it. Then I walked home, and asked our neighbour to borrow their phone book, so I could call a locksmith on my Nokia 3210.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]funnymonkey [he/him] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @funnymonkey@freeradical.zone

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yo.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's a lot of questions to call me old.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Errol Cavit » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @ErrolNZ@mastodon.nz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil I don't think I ever had a need for reversed charges, but I used to do price required calls weekly to my girlfriend when working away and staying in a small town hotel.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Emma Liv » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil Heck, I've used a payphone like a month ago. They still exist here, though not as numerous as in the past. Is that unusual?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Stumpy The Mutt » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @StumpyTheMutt@social.linux.pizza

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil All of the above, plus phreaking with a blue box and its ilk. Jeebus, I'm soooooo old!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Drumchord » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @charleekress@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil I did them all and I'm "only" 45, WTF!?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Neil Brown boosted

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Ivi Choc » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @IviChoc@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil I'm Hungarian, in our phone booths a special coin ("tantusz") was used, which made a metallic "CLONG" sound falling down, when the line got connected. We still have a saying "the 'tantusz' has fallen" (leesett a tantusz) if someone understood something. Stories From Ancient Times ^.^

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Dave Smeg » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @daveSmeg@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Done all apart from using a card and routing a call.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Danny Boling ☮️ » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @IAmDannyBoling@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's not related to the phone but raise your hand if you ever used a toothpick to rig a cable box to get free extra channels? 🤚 My family did this for years, until the cable company charged us hundreds of dollars for stolen cable after they found the toothpick we broke off inside the box. We told Mom not to buy the cheap toothpicks but she didn't listen!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]JustAnOwl » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @JustAnOwl@mastodon.world

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil Once used a phone book to hold open a door.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Does that count?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]bfritz » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @bfritz@social.vivaldi.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil I’ve also had to wait for someone to get off a party-line to make a call 🙃

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]chrisgerhard » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @chrisgerhard@mastodon.green

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil pressed button B in a phone box....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Golden Bunny of Destiny 🕯 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @davew@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ☐ Climbed a telephone pole to make a call

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Michael » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @michael@mstdn.thms.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil On the last one i have a fond memory from my uni days:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      There was a department that was always locked. The put a phone next to the door so you could call to be let in. It was a rotary phone. This was in the 2000s.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The number of students who had absolutely no idea at all what to do with that phone, trying to press the buttons and nothing happened was astonishingly high. 😂

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]rainey 🌻 [she/her] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @raineyday@mstdn.games

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I might have done one or two things I didn't vote for, but it's been so long I don't remember.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]The Febrile Muse » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @CMDoran@masto.ai

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          All of the above? I grew up w a party line too!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Marty Fouts » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @MartyFouts@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil No question about party lines? Or using a switchboard to route a call?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Ben » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @mrwedders@social.linux.pizza

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My great grandparents still had a rotary phone when I was a kid, I remember it fondly!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Arjen Haayman » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @haayman@todon.nl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil @leonieke in 1982 Burt Reynolds had beef with his phone company. The company gave him a free card but apparently Burt still wasn't happy and published the secret code and everyone in the US was able to make free calls for a while.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I did too, so I guess I did use a card?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Смерть Окупантам » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @Schafstelze@don.linxx.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil I have no idea what 7 means

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Tobias » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @krono@toot.berlin

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil My grandpa used to collect phone cards, until the mid 2000s even. Germany is strange. My (other) Grandma had a rotary dial; *my* first (landline) phone was buttons, but still pulse dial. but my parents had a stand alone dial tone generator, intended to be used with mailboxes. so weird.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Patrick Schanen » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @pschanen@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil at one point, I was a telephone operator (summer job)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]red_rooster :coolified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @red_rooster@sueden.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I choose all the options that were available in the Federal Republic of in the 80s

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -No Operators, self dailing
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -No reversed charges within Germany
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -No possibility to receive calls in a phone box
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    - Trunk calls were also already self dialing and switched automatically
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    -

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]disorderlyf [She/Her, Sie/Ihre, Ella/Su, Elle/Son] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @disorderlyf@todon.eu

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil Fuck, fedi really does skew older, huh. Rotary phone and phone book was because I was at my grandmother's place and she still used those. And while I'm not old, I don't think most would call me young.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]a1 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @ar1@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil 🟩 used to hack phone cards with a 9 Volt battery and an Eprom

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Steve Foerster 🌐 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @SteveFoerster@social.vivaldi.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil Yes, I remember the days when my mom knew I was at the pool and got a collect call from "Stevisdun Kumnow" which she would then decline....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Irina [https://name.pn/irina-rempt] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @irina@wandering.shop

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk I've never seen a pay phone that could *receive* calls.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Irina [https://name.pn/irina-rempt] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @irina@wandering.shop

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk Why does it 403 when I want to vote? There's 19 hours left!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]commonst » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @commonst@social.vivaldi.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil you missed "had a party line". 😁

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]GinevraCat [She / Her] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @GinevraCat@toot.community

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil Oh. I feel very old now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]J Miller » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @JMMaok@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Bonus points for

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                * Had a party line
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                * Rented rather than owned a telephone

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Chris Espinosa » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @Cdespinosa@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  For extra credit, used a handheld DTMF tone generator to retrieve voice mail on a dial phone

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Sarah Sammis » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @pussreboots@sfba.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil Yes. All the things.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Nico Cartron » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @cartron@masto.hivane.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil wow. Now I feel old(er) 🤣

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]:bugdog: :genderqueer_flag: [he/they/it (no preference)] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @trashguts@goblin.camp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil i used a rotary phone i think once, maybe.. and my grandparents used a phonebook as a booster seat for me when i was very small. but i would have voted "none of these"/empty vote, if i could, lol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]TheDude » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @tstruthers@ioc.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil and of you checked any of these boxes it's time to schedule your colonoscopy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Innocuous In Innisfil 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @PaulBusch@cosocial.ca

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bingo!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Checked them all...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Paul Orlando Caggegi [He/Him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @pcaggegi@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil was waiting for the "you could be entitled to compensation" or "time to get your prostate checked" punchline.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                🗳

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]farlukar » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @farlukar@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil Want to feel old?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                no:0
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                hell no:0

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Andrew Elwell » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @Elwell@mast.hpc.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil add to that "placed a call from a boat via a coast radio station" too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Daniel Opitz » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @daniel@openbiblio.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil (almost) all? In rural Poland in the 90s. The whole village had only 99 phone numbers, you'd call the human operator to dial out of the village. On holidays we had reserved time slots, because only one connection to the "outside" was possible. Rotary phones were the usual thing. Phone booths came later with an electronic phone station and longer phone numbers. Many phone cards had cool designs and we were collecting those. Manipulating the remaining credits as well. Fun times!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Florian Berger (privat) » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @flberger@nerdculture.de

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Okay, the Fediverse _is_ officially old people social media. 🙈 Hi everyone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @kDelta@ieji.de

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil @nina_kali_nina You missed the option "dialled from a payphone for free by battering the hangup switch" but I'll let you off with that since it was rare that people knew the trick and they did fix it eventually 😉

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]HD » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @hareldan@mapstodon.space

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil tl;dr: where you born before 1990?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]dragonfrog [He/Him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil also trying to call my girlfriend from a music festival I'd hitch hiked out to, where the only pay phone ate your money without registering it, I tried to reverse charges via an automated system that gave you a few seconds to record your name. No one was home at her place but their answering machine message was the same length as the robot operator's blurb, so I smuggled my message through the reverse charge system.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]April’s Fool » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @apriloq@connectop.us

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil dammit I know I just turned 74, but did you have to rub it in?! 🤪

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]BashStKid » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @BashStKid@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil Guilty as charged on all counts, but not admitting to additional crimes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Re dialling from one exchange to another; do you mean the dodge for multiway group chats? Call person A, put them on hold, call person B on a distant exchange, put them on hold, etc. until you’ve got the whole family on the call? (all the charges come to the first phone, so pick that carefully)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]glasspshr » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @glasspusher@beige.party

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil @pseudonymsupreme

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @tayfonay the point is, they robbed a bank with a telephone

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Tito Swineflu » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @tito_swineflu@sfba.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil what? No "have you ever used a tone generator to simulate quarters going into a payphone?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Alex Feinman » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @afeinman@wandering.shop

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil Have also served as a switchboard operator, with the hot patch cables and the physical switches...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Sadie » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @Burn_this_@beige.party

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What is the penultimate option? My app cut it off.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Valdus [Any] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @Valdus@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I still use a phone book

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]WTL » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @WTL@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil @alice Been made to feel old by a poll? ✅

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Sveinn í Felli » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @sv1@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil Guilty on all accounts, still use the last phonebook distributed around here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Captain | 🏳️‍🌈 🇨🇦 :flagpan: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Lady_Noremon@mas.to

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil I forgot to tick it but realised after the dialing 0 for information is an Operator

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]The Human Capybara [He/They - iel] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @aSweetGentleman@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil I want rotary dials back.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  With the little sound
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  krrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrSshhhhhhhhh *poc*

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Leon Miller » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @leon_miller@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil + the missing one: used a party line.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]@FourQ ♿ » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @FourQ@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil Yes to all of them. It's not all that long ago I took a Pi out of a rotary dial phone (Google Assistant via a Pi with an AIY voice hat). You picked up the receiver or dialled any single digit number to activate it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't know if I'll ever use the rotary dial phone or not but it was fun to make while it lasted.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Dave [He/They] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @rail@snailedit.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil I’m 25 and I’ve absolutely used a pay phone and the telephone book

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]James Donohoe » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @JamesMDonohoe@sfba.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Used a Captain Crunch whistle to...oh never mind, wrong poll...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Erik [he/him/his] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @erikcats@dice.camp

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil this country (NL) was too small to need many of those options 😂

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Neil Brown boosted

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) :paw::paw: [🐱] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @catsalad@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil Fediverse age verification 😭

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Johannes » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @JmbFountain@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil at work we use phone cards for time tracking

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Phone card that is heavily worn on a bedsheet

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Alt...Phone card that is heavily worn on a bedsheet

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Hugs4friends ♾🇺🇦 🇵🇸😷 [She/her] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @Tooden@aus.social

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil I ticked all 8. Do I get a prize? Btw, I worked at Directory Enquiries.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]cichlidenfreund » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @schuppenvogel@norden.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil yes, i'm really old

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]lpbkdotnet » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @lpbkdotnet@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil 6/8 of these are possible in my house.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have more phones and phone exchanges than any reasonable person…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      but so far no phonecard equipment, and no metering (so reverse charge calls aren’t really possible)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Photo of a cluttered workshop space, there are 3 electromechanical phone exchanges visible, shelves of phones and storage boxes. On the workbench is a 2280Hz trunk signalling system under construction

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Alt...Photo of a cluttered workshop space, there are 3 electromechanical phone exchanges visible, shelves of phones and storage boxes. On the workbench is a 2280Hz trunk signalling system under construction

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]galooph [he/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @galooph@masto.galooph.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @lpbkdotnet @neil The angle grinder is a nice touch - made me chuckle 😀

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Gary :party_porg: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @WiteWulf@cyberplace.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @lpbkdotnet @neil nice collection! This is all I have left of my old PBX now. It sits on top of the cupboards in my office as a reminder 😀

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]lpbkdotnet » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @lpbkdotnet@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @WiteWulf @neil ahh the venerable 5422 line tester!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Absolutely essential bit of kit for testing the wiring between the exchange and the phones! A skilled operator could tell by the way the meter responded to the line capacitance how far away the fault was

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I used to have one in my living room, as a fireplace ornament. I sadly had to rehome it when I got a log burner 😢

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Gary :party_porg: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @WiteWulf@cyberplace.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @lpbkdotnet @neil it’s crazy to think that our modern Ethernet switches have TDR circuitry built into the ASIC that’ll do that for you, now 😎

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Derò 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Dero_10@thecanadian.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil @Tooden Need to select all options. Dates me too well.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Also were you on a Party Line?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Von Xylofon [He/him] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @vonxylofon@witter.cz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil Fedi is full of old people. ✨

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Darcy Casselman » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @flyingsquirrel@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil Oh good. 90%, then, can easily make use of this innovative keyboard.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    youtu.be/BgdWyD0cBx4?si=iZB5dG

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Hypatia » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @Hypatia@norden.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil I worked at the directory enquiries of the Deutsche Telekom in the 90s (which apparently ran till 2024).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]🥧 asgrim 🇺🇦 :verified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @asgrim@phpc.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil thank you for making me feel old, I ticked all but the exchange routing one 😂 hope you have an awesome day! 🥰

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Matthew Flint » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @matthew@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Dialled the operator from a phone box and shouted “get off the line, there’s a train coming!”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Julian :nixos: :arch: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @JulianFP@fosstodon.org

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I have used a rotary phone before. It was in a museum. And what are phone cards and reverse charges?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Tina van Oranje » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @Salamisaft@bildung.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil So is it an "Are you officially old"-Test ? 😄

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Maciej Sulima » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @maciek33@wspanialy.eu

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil everything ticked.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]:lego_happy: Pink 🏳️‍🌈 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @LegoPink@mstdn.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil I'm not sure that calling to a public phone was even possible in the Netherlands

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Harald Leithner » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @hleithner@joomla.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil I'm missing the "Vierteltelefone" which seems to be an Austrian special. 4 households sharing 1 landline having there own phone.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Tim Chase » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @gumnos@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil does "Will you accept a collect call from «MomItsTimComePickMeUp»? No? «click»" count as reversing charges on a call? 😆

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]jomo » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @jomo@mstdn.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        the reverse charge service we used allowed a few seconds of audio to record your name. Relatives would get calls like "Do you want to accept a reverse charge call from «HeyImComingHome30MinsLaterBye» or «OutOfCreditPleaseCallMeBack»?". Those "names" were transmitted at no cost, the requests were never accepted, and people would just call back at normal rates if needed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Atkelar » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @atkelar@meow.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil quite a few of these are US things... We never had "phone cards" here in the same sense. What might be called that were prepaid cards for public phones.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Quixoticgeek » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @quixoticgeek@social.v.st

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil I wonder if the using a phone book needs clarifying as using it as a phone book, and not as say a door stop or monitor stand... :p

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]modulux » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @modulux@node.isonomia.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil Fedi seems kind of old compared to other forms of social media.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Dave » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @TheLancashireman@hostux.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Have you ever dialled a number by tapping on the cradle switch?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Technodad » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @technodad@cunnin.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil I will add:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - Dialed a four digit number to reach someone in the same town
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - Given my number as COpley 7-3892

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Deborah Preuss, pcc 🇨🇦 [she/her] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @deborahh@cosocial.ca

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ✔ clicked and clicked the disconnect lever on a pay phone to make a call without paying. 😂

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Yrjänä Rankka 🌻 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @ghard@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil Used to be able to dial any number with good accuracy by clicking on the hook switch on phones that had locks on the rotary dial.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Cali's Vassal Duke 4 Denmark » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @VoxOfGod@beige.party

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil in a larger area, the same thing might be said about area codes ...which still work in the usa in some circumstances

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]magnetichuman » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @magnetichuman@cupoftea.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil Anyone else used to give "three rings" to let someone know you got home safe? It was a way of sending a message without paying for the call, which never connected because the receiving person was expecting your call and would not pick up until they heard the fourth ring.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]SpaceLifeForm » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @SpaceLifeForm@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Based upon the poll results, it is obvious that there are many experienced people here. Also old.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          m.youtube.com/watch?v=n0geurEs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Mom Zombie » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Momming_Round2@ohai.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil Looks like we're all old enough--but not cool enough to spy actions like rerouting calls or rude enough to reverse charges. 😜

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Götz Salzmann » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @gtz42@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil @stiefkind tell my you‘re old without telling me you‘re old.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Kim Possible :kimoji_fire: [She/Her 🌈] » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @kimlockhartga@beige.party

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Have you ever had a Hot Cross bun? (And what country are you from?)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, many times!:11
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, just once:1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Meh:0
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't think so:1
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Never:4
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A what?:1
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Nick » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @nick@shore.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                In that London to see a show, Avenue Q

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A square containing New York subway symbols with a big yellow Q in the centre. This is the pre show image at the front of the stage

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Alt...A square containing New York subway symbols with a big yellow Q in the centre. This is the pre show image at the front of the stage

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Jody Lemoine CD 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @ghostinthenet@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @nick My wife and I were definitely under the influence of the Bad Idea Bears while we were in Czechia.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Nick » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @nick@shore.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @ghostinthenet@hachyderm.io This was one we had

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  A green beer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Alt...A green beer

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Jody Lemoine CD 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @ghostinthenet@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @nick Well, it •was• close to St. Patrick’s Day, so green beer works. We did the beer spa in Plzen, which was a fun experience.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Nick » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @nick@shore.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lovely sunny day charging the car for free ☀️

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      A graphic from the myenergi app showing solar generation feeding our car and house

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Jody Lemoine CD 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @ghostinthenet@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @nick Switching to was one of my best decisions of 2025. I haven’t gone so far as to charge it on solar for free, but the cost savings in maintenance and off-peak electricity costs vs gasoline are huge.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Nick » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @nick@shore.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @ghostinthenet@hachyderm.io we have been EV only since Oct 22, we have a little 2016 Renault Zoe which only has a 20kWh battery but still does approx 90 miles, and a newer 2023 MG4 with 64kWh which can do approx 250 miles. The zappi charger can automatically send spare energy to the car, it works very well.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Jody Lemoine CD 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @ghostinthenet@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @nick I’ve got the extended range Ford Mustang Mach-E, which has 500 km of range in the summer and around in the winter. I thought the range would be a consideration when I got it, but so far it hasn’t been.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Stephen Foskett » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @sfoskett@techfieldday.net

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @ghostinthenet @nick we’ve been 100% EV for the last few years and it’s incredible. Installed a great level two charger in the garage and no worries about gasoline costs.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Jody Lemoine CD 🇨🇦 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @ghostinthenet@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @sfoskett @nick Same. Made a bit of a mistake and paid extra to install an 80A circuit for the charger only to find that my car won’t do more than 48A… but hey. Lessons learned.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Lily Star » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @starlily@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @ghostinthenet you are all set for the next one that does!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]SeanBurlington 🌈 🕊️ » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @sean@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @nick sunshine is the cheapest fuel 🌞

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]☑️ Cath » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @Kletskous@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I would like to follow some accounts from the and eastern Europe, so from , ,

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Nick » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]☑️ Cath » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @Kletskous@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @nick Thanks, but looks like an abandoned account. @normis

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Nick » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]normis » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @normis@g.dodies.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @Kletskous @nick i'm here 😁🐈

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]☑️ Cath » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Kletskous@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @normis Ah, nice to meet you! @nick

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]normis » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @normis@g.dodies.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @Kletskous @nick nearly all my followers are latvian, our main mastodon server is toot.lv - check that out for other accounts. If you are interested, also check out my Latvian nature hikes webpage dodies.lv and the historical maps site vesture.dodies.lv

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]☑️ Cath » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Kletskous@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @normis Thanks, some nice pictures here too! @nick

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Lauma Pret ♡ ᪲᪲᪲🌈 [she/they] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @laumapret@toot.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @Kletskous
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I think, the liveliest Latvian server is Toot.lv. Scroll through the public timeline, maybe someone catches your eye.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]AGF : poemproducer » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @poemproducer@systerserver.town

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @Kletskous I am based in Hailuoto which is an island in the most nortern Bothnian bay on Finland side

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]☑️ Cath » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @Kletskous@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @poemproducer Thank you and welcome. Had to look that one up: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hailuoto

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Very interesting and happy to follow back! 😺

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]AGF : poemproducer » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @Kletskous yesterday

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Marjaniemi habour

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Darcy Ellarby » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @Darcye@mastoart.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @Kletskous I live in Slovenia and am new to mastodon.art so looking for new connections!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]☑️ Cath » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Kletskous@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Darcye Welcome here; been there once on holiday. Great country and happy to follow you. 💜

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Miha Markič » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @mihamarkic@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @Kletskous Slovenia is Baltics or Eastern Europe? 😱

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]☑️ Cath » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @Kletskous@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @mihamarkic To where I am, it's eastern. 😺

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Nick » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @nick@shore.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk @pikesley@mastodon.me.uk It implies that they only care about web servers...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]The Manchurian Idiot [he / him] » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @pikesley@mastodon.me.uk

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @nick @neil at the very least, it's going to lead to confusion when the people at whom this is aimed talk to people who actually understand this stuff

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    "And then this name points to this web server"
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    "But that's my postgres server"
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    "OK, the web server running postgres"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    *Fistfight ensues*

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Pauline von Hellermann » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      🧵34/n

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      We had a veg box for 12 years from Hankham Organics; 3 weeks ago we suddenly had a note with our box that they were closing, as it wasn’t working financially any more. 😢😢😢

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And a fish merchant who we got smoked salmon for Christmas from closed this year too, for the same reasons. Plus Goldsmiths’ woes of course (). So many good, small organisations struggling and ending.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Photo of a veg box from above, eggs on top, note saying they were closing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Pauline von Hellermann » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Pauline von Hellermann » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        🧵 36/n Here a positive, progressive use of money flows:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1400+ Columbia University alumni from its 20 schools have pledged to withhold all “financial, programmatic, and academic support” until school meets demands related to divestment, student discipline, and community safety.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Group website says over $63 million of donations at risk.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thousands of Columbia University Alumni Pledge to Withhold All Contributions to School Until Pro-Palestinian Student Demands are Met
New York, NY - A group representing thousands of Columbia University alumni from its 20 schools and across decades of graduating classes has pledged to withhold all "financial, programmatic, and
academic support" in an open letter to Columbia University's President Minouche Shafik and its trustees until the university meets demands related to divestment, student discipline, and community
safety.
In the letter released this week, alumni estimate that the pledge puts $41 million in financial contributions at risk. It was issued in addition to petitions calling for a stop to the unjust expulsion and
suspensions of student protesters, and nearly two score letters previously sent to the administration representing thousands of alumni who graduated between 1966 and 2023 from all of the University's
schools, and identify across a variety of racial, ethnic and religious groups.
"I sign because my Jewish values of inquiry, empathy, and moral courage compel me to," said an alumna of CC '03 and CLS '10 who grew up in both New York and Jerusalem.

(Half of text can provide more on request)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Alt...Thousands of Columbia University Alumni Pledge to Withhold All Contributions to School Until Pro-Palestinian Student Demands are Met New York, NY - A group representing thousands of Columbia University alumni from its 20 schools and across decades of graduating classes has pledged to withhold all "financial, programmatic, and academic support" in an open letter to Columbia University's President Minouche Shafik and its trustees until the university meets demands related to divestment, student discipline, and community safety. In the letter released this week, alumni estimate that the pledge puts $41 million in financial contributions at risk. It was issued in addition to petitions calling for a stop to the unjust expulsion and suspensions of student protesters, and nearly two score letters previously sent to the administration representing thousands of alumni who graduated between 1966 and 2023 from all of the University's schools, and identify across a variety of racial, ethnic and religious groups. "I sign because my Jewish values of inquiry, empathy, and moral courage compel me to," said an alumna of CC '03 and CLS '10 who grew up in both New York and Jerusalem. (Half of text can provide more on request)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Pauline von Hellermann » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          🧵37/n

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Even though all of us living in the UK know that homelessness is terrible (and has grown exponentially since 2010), it is still shocking to see this graph.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          (There are notes on methods: all countries included both rough sleeping and invisible homelessness).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          oecd.org/social/homelessness-c

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Experiencing homelessness
As per 10 000 people, 2023 or latest year (point-in-time data)
UK (England) *
France
Czechia
Germany
United States
New Zealand
Australia
Canada
Portugal
Denmark
Sweden
Spain
Mexico
Norway
Korea
Finand
30.7
28.4
25.9
19.2
13.5
12.4
10.5
10.3
6.3
5.5
5.4
3.6
2.6
1.6
1.6
42.6
10
20
Note: People experiencing homelessness (PIT data) who are living rough or staying in emergency
accommodation (ETHOS Light 1, 2, 3), as reported by governments. *Data for the United Kingdom
(England) refer to the number of households experiencing homelessness per 10 000 households for
ETHOS Light 2 and 3; data also include people enumerated in the Rough Sleeping Snapshot (ETHOS 1).
Source: OECD Affordable Housing Database, HC3.1 People experiencing homelessness.
30
40
OECD

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Alt...Experiencing homelessness As per 10 000 people, 2023 or latest year (point-in-time data) UK (England) * France Czechia Germany United States New Zealand Australia Canada Portugal Denmark Sweden Spain Mexico Norway Korea Finand 30.7 28.4 25.9 19.2 13.5 12.4 10.5 10.3 6.3 5.5 5.4 3.6 2.6 1.6 1.6 42.6 10 20 Note: People experiencing homelessness (PIT data) who are living rough or staying in emergency accommodation (ETHOS Light 1, 2, 3), as reported by governments. *Data for the United Kingdom (England) refer to the number of households experiencing homelessness per 10 000 households for ETHOS Light 2 and 3; data also include people enumerated in the Rough Sleeping Snapshot (ETHOS 1). Source: OECD Affordable Housing Database, HC3.1 People experiencing homelessness. 30 40 OECD

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Pauline von Hellermann » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            🧵 38/n

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            A rare silver lining to severe cuts in local council budgets: for the last few years Eastbourne have stopped spraying our streets and I love this time of year, flowers reclaiming the streets everywhere.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Purple and yellow flowers/weeds  in front of our own house; i used to know the purple ones name but have forgotten just now. Sussex wall in background

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...Purple and yellow flowers/weeds in front of our own house; i used to know the purple ones name but have forgotten just now. Sussex wall in background

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Orange flowers. Again, should look up name.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...Orange flowers. Again, should look up name.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yellow flowering plant in front of yellow wooden gate

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...Yellow flowering plant in front of yellow wooden gate

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mexican daisies and purple flowers on wall

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Pauline von Hellermann » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              🧵 39/n

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Have to add this here. The last 14 years summarised in 4 images

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              EDIT: here link itself too as images in screenshot i complete

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              x.com/ACORNunion/status/179393

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              X post screenshot tweet with 4 pictures: electro tagged butter; a boy saying we try not to eat too much; manchester-london train tixket, lobdon one room ad, both extremely expensive

t? Politics Theory Other reposted
ACORN the union o
@ACORNunion
Follow
The last 14 years summarised in 4 images
K
ALT
LURPAK
SPREADI
BLE
ALT
750g*
Class
Ticket type
STD
ANYTIME R
Start Dote
26 - NOV - 18
Adult
ONE
Nunber
37364
Child
NIL
RTN
6555189225
Valid until
Fron
MANCHESTER STNS
To
LONDON TERMINALS
ALT
25 - DMR - 18
Price
£338-00X
Route
Validity
ANY PERMITTED
ONE HONTH
2-PART RETURN
Printed 08:04 on 26-NOV-18
£737 pcm
HALT
Studio

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alt...X post screenshot tweet with 4 pictures: electro tagged butter; a boy saying we try not to eat too much; manchester-london train tixket, lobdon one room ad, both extremely expensive t? Politics Theory Other reposted ACORN the union o @ACORNunion Follow The last 14 years summarised in 4 images K ALT LURPAK SPREADI BLE ALT 750g* Class Ticket type STD ANYTIME R Start Dote 26 - NOV - 18 Adult ONE Nunber 37364 Child NIL RTN 6555189225 Valid until Fron MANCHESTER STNS To LONDON TERMINALS ALT 25 - DMR - 18 Price £338-00X Route Validity ANY PERMITTED ONE HONTH 2-PART RETURN Printed 08:04 on 26-NOV-18 £737 pcm HALT Studio

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Pauline von Hellermann » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                🧵 40/n haven’t added anything here in a while - but this needs to be posted!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Trump’s victory adds record $64bn to wealth of richest top 10

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Share surge increases Elon Musk’s fortune by $26bn in a day as Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin and Bill Gates also benefit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                theguardian.com/business/2024/

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PaUL TED
1
Rich lists
Trump's victory adds record
$64bn to wealth of richest
top 10
Share surge increases Elon Musk's fortune by
$26bn in a day as Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin and Bill
Gates also benefit

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Pauline von Hellermann » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @pvonhellermannn@mastodon.green

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  🧵 41/n Ok so the reason for the long pause in this 🧵 was being made rdundant in July, by my lovely (not) employer of 13 years, Goldsmiths University. You can read all about it in this long 🧵, tracing the whole sorry saga from first rumblings in Nov ‘23 to the bitter end. But of course, is all about money, and I think about money all the time now (I have to), so really should write it about it all here a bit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  mastodon.green/@pvonhellermann

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    🧵42/n Firstly, I am conscious of my own being very much part of the wider hollowing out, draining out of both public services and professional, creative industries everywhere (see many posts ⬆️). I am really scared about this - it’s strange how this is happening but not really talked about; no crisis narrative at all, as of course most people, like me, end up not being “unemployed” but doing smaller, precarious jobs; very few of us on benefiso no stats

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      🧵 43/n Now of course Elon Musk - having made 2/3 of Twitter staff redundant - has been hired by Trump to head the new “Efficiency Department”. i find this prospect alone deeply, deeply scary - both in terms of public services disappearing and the 1000s who will lose their jobs. As you all know: there is absolutely nothing “efficient” about these kinds of cuts whatsoever. They are deeply destructive, nothing else.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        🧵 44/n but also: has made me think deeply (of course!) about the role of money in personal decision making. I may be wrong but it feels like this is something we don’t talk about much, and yet it is is so central to everything! I DO want to talk about it, even if I have nothing insightful to say actually. Just a few observations.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. Money was at core of my decisions around redundancy. I have two teenage children and a high mortgage.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I could not go for lovely 0.5 offered, or for tribunal; I had to opt for enhanced redundancy. If had chosen tribunal route i would have probably been able to keep my job as the 12 who did (who were able to do so due to different financial circumstances) were all reinstalled in an even lovelier deal btw management and union. (The 64 of us eho accepted enhanced redundancy by deadline did not know this would happen).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Money is now also so core to all my decision-making in how to spend my time, what jobs to go for - and balancing the need for money with wanting to do good, environmental work, and things I enjoy and am good at. It is quite strange, I gave a lecture at SOAS in Feb this year on “Doing Work You Believe in and be paid for it”, on the very day the Goldsmiths mass redundancies were announced (will see if I can upload recording here)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Title slide of my Soas talk, ohoto of eastbourne acitivsts outside townhall declarinf climate emergency on left, photo of a palm oil sustainability event on the right



"LIA
N
Doing Work You Believe In
Dr Pauline von Hellermann (Goldsmiths), SOAS Lecture for "How to change things" module
28th February 2024

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...Title slide of my Soas talk, ohoto of eastbourne acitivsts outside townhall declarinf climate emergency on left, photo of a palm oil sustainability event on the right "LIA N Doing Work You Believe In Dr Pauline von Hellermann (Goldsmiths), SOAS Lecture for "How to change things" module 28th February 2024

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This was a combination of two papers: one on unpaid Eastbourne climate activism, one on sustainability professionals in the palm oil sector. It is very strange that I gave that lecture and wrote that paper - this is me now! I am out here in the wilderness, having to make a living, and yes, doing consultancy work. Which, of course, as I am rapidly learning, does not have to mean “selling out “ - my current work for the RSPB is really rewarding.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                🧵 48/n here also a link to the other paper on Eastbourne climate activism, i’ve shared it before but doing so again as it has a brief section on what kind of work is rewarded by high salaries, and what isn’t. I still feel this is an incredibly important topic and not really talked about enough in circles. Maybe we can talk about it more together here?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  🧵 49/n Anyway, just to end for today: a huge, HUGE shout out ❤️ to everyone on here who works “freelance”, going from one projec to another (more on “projects” and projectification later - so important in itself). I am now realising the immense privilege of a secure job (not secure in my case, as it turned out), where you don’t have to think about where your money will come from in 6 months or whatever. It is a fundamentally different state of being. Everything now existential.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    🧵 50/n Today adding this excellent video by @RichardJMurphy on how “the City” is not our “Jewel in the Crown”, as Rachel Reeves put it, but a parasite extracting huge amounts of money for self-enrichment. It does not add any value to the economy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So important to see the City for what it is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      🧵 51/n Richard’s video has spurred me on to do a few posts now on . Long overdue here, because private equity is at the heart of how our world works!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      (Just to state again: i am not an expert, just someone who is trying to make sense of our world by , in an eclectic 🧵)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      To start with basics: what is private equity? I like this clear definition by Justin Robertson

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      "Private equity funds are businesses that
draw upon capital and debt in the
international financial system to acquire
stakes in companies that are intended to
be sold for profit after a number of years.
Unlike hedge funds, which are mostly
short-term traders, private equity funds
take ownership and management control
of corporations."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Alt..."Private equity funds are businesses that draw upon capital and debt in the international financial system to acquire stakes in companies that are intended to be sold for profit after a number of years. Unlike hedge funds, which are mostly short-term traders, private equity funds take ownership and management control of corporations."

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The amount of wealth and assets held by private equity is vast. The biggest private equity firm of all is of course , founded by Larry Fink in 1988. Here is a lovely Statistica chart showing how its “assets under management” grew from $1.31 trillion (i mean, not bad) to $10.41 trillion in 2024. Bloomberg predicts they will hit $15 trillion in a few years

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        A bar chart with blue horizontal bars, showing increase in assets held by black
Rock btw 2008 and 2024. I don’t have time
to put in all the numbers now but you csn check the website, link in post

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Alt...A bar chart with blue horizontal bars, showing increase in assets held by black Rock btw 2008 and 2024. I don’t have time to put in all the numbers now but you csn check the website, link in post

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          🧵 53/n I have to go now but over the next few days just want to talk about what this means: it means that so much of the world around us - restaurants, care homes, appartment blocks, student accommodation, etc etc, is all owned by private equity; that there is no escape.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This article is hard to stomach for all those of us currently looking for work, and not finding anything suitable, or anything at all. But it’s good that at least rising is recognised now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            My own last year and subsequent struggles have made me so alert to all these wider structural changes; I am really scared that this may be just the beginning. Terrible combination of AI and money going only to the rich

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            theguardian.com/money/2025/feb

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            RESUME
Job hunting
'It's nightmarish': why 1.5m
Britons are still hunting for
a job
UK jobseekers say employers are hiring fewer
staff - whom they expect to do more for less pay

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...RESUME Job hunting 'It's nightmarish': why 1.5m Britons are still hunting for a job UK jobseekers say employers are hiring fewer staff - whom they expect to do more for less pay

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              “Keri said her father had been “powered by unconditional love” but he felt the government took advantage of the nearly 6 million people like him who care for a loved one, saving the taxpayer at least £162bn a year.”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This reminded of a thought I had a while back: how salaries/wages are directly negatively correlated with love.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              When you do something you love, or out of love, this is instantly punished by capitalism.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                - nurses, art gallery workers, conservation NGOs, academics, etc - all these jobs that people do out of love for something/one are poorly paid. Love is exploited. More love = less money.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Only love of money itself and nothing else is rewarded with money (high salaries, bonuses, etc). Maybe not surprising - what do you expect in capitalism - but not much honesty about it. All that neoliberal motivational talk (“my work is my passion”) - exploitative bollocks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Self help style image found through google image search:

Grey cloudy.backgroubd, an apple on a pile of books on the left, in the middle, in mized fonts:

My Passion
is My Work

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This LinkedIn post resonates … wanted to share here just in case there are others who are in this situation too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Also one reason I hardly ever add to this 🧵any more is that, of course, I am literally trying to , or rather, divert some from somewhere to my bank account😄

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This week, a friend told me they'd taken a job with
lower pay and a smaller title.
"It's not my dream job," they said. "But I need the
money."
My heart ached for him.
The last two years have been the hardest l've seen in
30 years of watching the job market. Talented people
who once had their pick of opportunities are taking
lower salaries/titles because they don't have any
choice.
This in a world that's full of "Find your purpose." And
"Do work that lights you up every damn day."
F**k purpose for a minute.
There's no shame in taking the job that feeds your
family. There's no shame in staying in an industry you
don't love if it keeps the lights on.
Some of us are just trying to get through the month.
And that's okay. This season won't last forever.
I used to believe I had to "love what I do" every day.
That if I wasn't perfectly aligned with my highest
values, I was failing.
What a load of privileged bullshit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Alt...This week, a friend told me they'd taken a job with lower pay and a smaller title. "It's not my dream job," they said. "But I need the money." My heart ached for him. The last two years have been the hardest l've seen in 30 years of watching the job market. Talented people who once had their pick of opportunities are taking lower salaries/titles because they don't have any choice. This in a world that's full of "Find your purpose." And "Do work that lights you up every damn day." F**k purpose for a minute. There's no shame in taking the job that feeds your family. There's no shame in staying in an industry you don't love if it keeps the lights on. Some of us are just trying to get through the month. And that's okay. This season won't last forever. I used to believe I had to "love what I do" every day. That if I wasn't perfectly aligned with my highest values, I was failing. What a load of privileged bullshit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think so much about middle class-ness at the moment. More research in news this week how it’s the top 10%, those with incomes over £36,000, who are largely responsible for CO2 emissions; but it’s even more than that; middle-class aspirations shape everything. So conscious of this now as I am so driven in finding work so as not to have to sell our (nice, middle class, highly mortgaged house). Then a friend just sent me this - must read.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Picture of a book cover 

FEAR Of
FALLING
The Inner Life of the
Middle Class
Barbara
threnreich

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Meanwhile our lovely king..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Meanwhile also, as I am listening to the radio as I am typing this: yet another horrific attack in northern . Another 50 killed, after yesterday’s 80. This is our world.

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i
Rich lists
King Charles's wealth swells
to match Rishi Sunak and
Akshata Murty on UK rich list
Sunday Times says monarch's personal fortune
has risen to £640m, while that of ex-PM and wife
has fallen to that level
Business live - latest updates

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        “The wealth of the world’s 3,000 billionaires has surged by $6.5tn (£4.8tn) in real terms over the past decade, according to Oxfam, equivalent to 14.6% of global output”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Capitalism is shit.It is by the rich for the rich and destroys everything else in the process. Let’s keep saying it!

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1
The super-rich
Billionaires' wealth surged
$6.5tn over past decade,
Oxfam reports
Real-terms gains of $33.9tn for world's richest 1%
'enough to end annual global poverty 22 times
over', charity says

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Just adding this here. A little poll I did a while back!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            A key dimension to capitalism’s destructivism is, of course, its complete intertwining with warfare. Here more than anywhere it’s crucial to , as Craig Murray does beautifully in this piece.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Dystopia UK: Genocidal RAF Squadron Targeted by Palestine Action is Owned by a Hedge Fund

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              🧵63/n Excellent article by Tim White on how across Europe has been buying up significant proportions of housing and driving up rental prices. A key dynamic in growing inequality that contributes to alienation and rise of far-right.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Everything is about .

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The housing crisis in Europe
Across Europe, the financial
sector has pushed up house
prices. It's a political timebomb
Tim White
We've been living in a great experiment: can finance
provide basic human rights such as housing? The
answer is increasingly no
Mon 7 Jul 2025 05.00 BST
Share
201
FOR
SALE
FU
DE
WONINGMARKT
WONEN IS EEN
STOP
MASS TOURISM
HOUSING SPECULAVO
TALES COMPRES
FEEDING
1

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                🧵64/n The article made me think once again about Monopoly, and how perfectly it captures what the world is like. Originally called “the Landlord Game”, it was invented in 1903 by left-wing feminist Lizzie Magie who wanted to expose how rentier capitalism works through a game. She more than succeeded but - this being capitalist US - never got the credit for it. Interesting piece about it all here.

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Годонон
MONA
МОНОРОС +
OPOLY
Monopoly
• This article is more than 10 years old
The secret history of
Monopoly: the capitalist
board game's leftwing
origins
In 1903, a leftwing feminist called Lizzy Magie
patented the board game that we now know as
Monopoly - but she never gets the credit. Now a
new book aims to put that right

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Alt...Screenshot of top of article Годонон MONA МОНОРОС + OPOLY Monopoly • This article is more than 10 years old The secret history of Monopoly: the capitalist board game's leftwing origins In 1903, a leftwing feminist called Lizzy Magie patented the board game that we now know as Monopoly - but she never gets the credit. Now a new book aims to put that right

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Why is the FTSE 100 at a record high? Could it be that the markets love war, chaos, the prospect of building concentration camps and more? Is the City rubbing its hands in glee at the prospect of making profit from oppression?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    🧵66/n Have to add this here, too. As Takei says, always follow the money!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Soencer Hakimian: I have good reason to believe that somebody knew the copper tariffs were coming and traded the news ahead of time, and made an ungodly amount of profit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Trump announced his new 50% copper tariff at 12:58 PM yesterday.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    But as my charting shows, the price of copper began spiking at 12:56 PM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Forgot that this post should havev been part of this thread, really! 😊

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        🧵68/n Have been reading up a bit on Elbit Systems, the Israel military corporation that has been a key supplier in rhe genocide, that Palestina Action protested about, and that the UK government may shortly be signing a £2billion contract wirh to train UK military. Was wondering whether UK pension funds may be investing in Elbit Systems - and yes, they are!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        “good returns”

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          🧵69/n I then looked up whether USS (the university oension scheme) invests in Elbit, and of course, yes, indirectly , they do

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            🧵70/n and THIS is the USS statement on this - really worth reading.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Financialisation is so evil.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We want to be clear that, as trustee, we can
only make investment decisions on financial
best interest grounds. Our in-house
investment team at USS Investment
Management (USSIM) make value-based
decisions every day, across financial markets,
in seeking to achieve the investment returns
the scheme needs to pay members' benefits.
The decisions that have been reported on this
week were made on that basis, and that basis
alone.
Some commentators have stated, or implied,
that we have excluded Israel from our
investment portfolio. We have not. It is also
wrong to state, or imply, that our decisions
were made for anything other than financial
reasons. They were not made in response to
the range of views USS members may have,
and nor were they any form of comment on
events other than the financial circumstances.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...We want to be clear that, as trustee, we can only make investment decisions on financial best interest grounds. Our in-house investment team at USS Investment Management (USSIM) make value-based decisions every day, across financial markets, in seeking to achieve the investment returns the scheme needs to pay members' benefits. The decisions that have been reported on this week were made on that basis, and that basis alone. Some commentators have stated, or implied, that we have excluded Israel from our investment portfolio. We have not. It is also wrong to state, or imply, that our decisions were made for anything other than financial reasons. They were not made in response to the range of views USS members may have, and nor were they any form of comment on events other than the financial circumstances.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              🧵71/n Great to see Zack Polanski use “Follow The Money” as a political slogan - so it should be! (apologies for sharing an X post, tried to find the video elsewhere, failed)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                🧵72/n “Vice like grip” - nice.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                “In 2025 you can still buy advantage, massively increasing your chance of getting into the most powerful roles in the country. This is grossly unfair, and a waste of talent on a huge scale. If we want a fairer country and a stronger economy, employers and policymakers must take responsibility for levelling the playing field, where privilege is no longer a passport to power.”

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1
Social mobility
Privately educated still have
'vice-like grip' on most
powerful UK jobs
Those in top roles are five times as likely to have
been to private school than general population,
study finds
Robyn Vinter North of England correspondent

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Alt...Screenshot of top of this article 1 Social mobility Privately educated still have 'vice-like grip' on most powerful UK jobs Those in top roles are five times as likely to have been to private school than general population, study finds Robyn Vinter North of England correspondent

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  American billionaires have reached $7.6 trillion of personal wealth , up $4.7 trillion (or 160%) in the less than eight years since the first Trump-GOP tax law was enacted in December 2017.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Most of that wealth increase has never been taxed and may never be under current law.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Number of billionaires grew from 551 to 905. But the top 15 - each worth over $100 billion– have seen their wealth grow by more than 300%.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    🧵74/n Just finished listening to this 2part podcast interview with Melinda Cooper about her book “Counterrevolution. Extravagance and Austerity in Public Finance”, and really cannot recommend it enough. A really excellent, grounded and stimulating account of the neoliberal “counterrevolution” as a deliberate project carried out over several decades by different political actors making fiscal choices that reshaped economy, values and politics

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      🧵75/n what i particularly appreciated:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Disaggregating each decade - how assets became the key focus of economic over time
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. How this links to a conservative political project - the family the key unit for multiple reasons
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. How asset economics the material basis for far right populism
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      4. Brilliant focus on changing construction worker politics,property speculators (Trump) and homeownership - construction such a key sector in all this

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        🧵76/n i have just ordered the book (Counterrevolution) - i really feel it’s so important to get a grounded understanding of how this world that we now all live in was created - and, as Melinda Cooper brings out so clearly: none of this was inevitable, it was all done, bit by bit, on purpose. This doesn’t make it any easier to undo necessarily but understanding all this is surely a first, key step.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Here also Katrina Forrester’s review in the LRB

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          🧵77/n This piece really chimes with Melinda Cooper’s analysis ⬆️ (74-76) and many previous posts: it’s about how asset capitalism (and AI) is hollowing out the middle class, with a small number joining the elite, the rest working increasingly on close to minimum wages. Also speaks to my own recent experiences… and many others too, I imagine. Especially recent graduates. The whole university>white collar job>decent salary model is crumbling.

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Opinion
The Guardian view on Britain's
new class divide: the
professional middle is being
hollowed out
Editorial
A micro-elite in finance and tech hoovers up talent
while white-collar jobs lose their lustre. A society
that rewards proximity to capital over contribution
risks rupture
+ Follow Editorial in My Guardian
(O))
Notifications off
Mon 3 Nov 2025 18.49 GMT

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Alt...Screenshot of top of article Opinion The Guardian view on Britain's new class divide: the professional middle is being hollowed out Editorial A micro-elite in finance and tech hoovers up talent while white-collar jobs lose their lustre. A society that rewards proximity to capital over contribution risks rupture + Follow Editorial in My Guardian (O)) Notifications off Mon 3 Nov 2025 18.49 GMT

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            🧵78/n ’s win has to be logged here - for three reasons!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. This 🧵 all about the , the way it structures our world, and Mamdani taking it on directly, talking about it, making us all is just 🔥

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Mamdani condemns ‘oligarchy and authoritarianism’ in speech directly talking to Trump

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. Melinda Cooper’s brilliant (posts 74-76 ⬆️ ) describes how was the place that the neoliberal counterrevolution began - where fiscal policies redistributing money towards the rich, assets and property (Trump’s world!) were first tested and then taken elsewhere.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              So exciting that New York is now the place where a different, socialist politicsl economy is emerging! Go New York! Let this spread everywhere from here, too!

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NEWYORK POST
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 2025 / Partly sunny, 64°/ Weather: P. 36
SPORTS EXTRA
nypost.com
On your Marx, get
set, Zo. Socialist
Mamdani wins
race for mayor
THE
(lED)
APPLE
After
a
campaign
that
promised high taxes, free stuff
hating Israel and vibes, socialist
Zohran Mamdani romped to
victory
last night and will
become the 1llth mayor of New
York City.
PAGES 4-11
Page
Six®
$2.00
NY Post: Peter LaVigna

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alt...Screenshot of front page of New York post NEWYORK POST WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 2025 / Partly sunny, 64°/ Weather: P. 36 SPORTS EXTRA nypost.com On your Marx, get set, Zo. Socialist Mamdani wins race for mayor THE (lED) APPLE After a campaign that promised high taxes, free stuff hating Israel and vibes, socialist Zohran Mamdani romped to victory last night and will become the 1llth mayor of New York City. PAGES 4-11 Page Six® $2.00 NY Post: Peter LaVigna

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                3. Lastly, I am also super excited that the son of an anthropologist is now Mayor of New York! Of course it’s wrong to claim Mamdani for anthropology- he is own person, and his mother is brilliant too - but I want to just do this for now. Anthropology, as David Graeber said, is about possibilities, - this is what Mamdani is showing us all now, too. I see so much of anthro in what he is doing I will shamelessly share this 🧵

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  🧵 81/n From Foreign Correspondent to Uber Driver

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This is an incredible, moving personal perspective on this system that we are all entangled in, that shifts money to the few away from the rest of us at accelerating rate.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Having also experienced not too long ago and still very much in the doldrums of short term, part time jobs, this resonates deeply. So many are going through this, we need to help each other.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I finally got around to making a tiny website using the fabulous BSSG from @stefano@bsd.cafe I spotted @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk using it for decoded legal and wonder how you can replace the homepage and then have another page which is the blogpost index ?? I made index.md do what I want, now i want what would have been on the index page in a page I can link to...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      New post: Adding A Balcony Install to our garage

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      We've had solar for nearly 3 years now, but our easterly exposure has been niggling at me: output starts waning around lunch so the afternoon feels wasted (particularly after a cloudy morning)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      So, I've added some west facing panels to the garage using a plug-in solar kit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      This post talks about the install, setting up monitoring with as well as results in the week since

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @ben nice write-up, especially the details of how you fed the data into Grafana and the analysis

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @ben Can those microinverters implement an export limit themselves if you had enough to get near the limit?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @penguin42 These can't. There are some that can but it means running a data cable and putting another meter in the fusebox

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @ben ah ok, I'd heard some did comms over the mains.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @ben ooh, nice. I have a similar issue with afternoon sun as my panels face south east.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I might well be using plugin units to help with this when they are legal.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I wonder if I can add these as I have already got 4kW peak installed? Does this not break G98 regs?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @Slash909uk Going over 4kWp does (afaik) mean you'd need DNO signoff.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'd guess that wont change with the new rules (Id be willing to bet plugin capacity will be capped at 800W)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @ben agreed, very likely a low limit. will be interesting to see how this interplays with fixed installs 👍

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @ben Thanks - this is really useful.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I've been eyeing up a garage roof installation in addition to the existing panels.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The maximum export gotcha isn't something I was aware of. I'm wondering if it might be possible to feed a battery on the sunniest days so as not to exceed the maximum export - but of course, as you say, batteries are much less cost effective.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @MikeFromLFE I wonder if that'll change after the rules do - in Europe you can buy plug-in battery storage, so I *assume* they'll probably clear the way for that too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So rather than needing to buy a (more expensive) hybrid inverter that needs a sparkie to install it, you'd end up with an off-the-shelf commoditised plugin battery unit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @ben thanks for publishing this, very interesting! 👍

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk Very interesting, we currently have a 12 year old 3.6kW system split across East and South, and I'm pondering adding something on our West facing roof to extend the generation day. Also we have no battery storage yet, so I've been pondering an Ecoflow Stream Ultra X with an Ecoflow smart meter to ensure export limit is not breached. I'm still not completely convinced on value for money though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @nick I think a standalone (in the sense no seperate hybrid inverter) system like that might have a better chance at breaking even

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              £1500 for 3.8kW doesn't feel too bad particularly with them claiming (and I assume warrantying) a 15yr lifetime.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think my only reservation from a skim of the specs is the 2.3kW peak output (but then, that'd be quite a high sustained load).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think I'd want it wired into a spur rather than plugged in too 😀

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @ben Does the microinverter let you adjust any of its settings, and if so what/which?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @DamonHD Not currently (at least not beyond things like joining the wifi)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Theres a seperate installer app but it geolocks and wont let you create a DIY account outside the EU.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But... it also appears to do modbus over wifi so watch this space :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @ben Ah, what I'd be interested in is setting a minimum Voc for it to cut in, so I could parallel it with an off-grid system and only scoop up excess that off-grid can't use. Many other issues too, but that would be the core for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil "Hey, you said tech, could take a look at my printer?!"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @lpl@metalhead.club @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk I'm sorry printers are evil and I can't

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          We are off to South Korea in a couple of weeks time, any recommendations? We will be in Seoul, Busan, and somewhere in between.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Years ago, software developers came up with the metaphor of "tech debt" to describe all the important corners one cuts—code quality, maintainability, testing, documentation, security—when in a rush.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The metaphor no longer works as a warning, since we've got a managerial class that likes tech debt so much they've made a fully leveraged, collateralised tech debt market, with derivatives and futures, and entire teams dreaming up exciting new ways of getting into even more tech debt.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @tommorris@mastodon.social the managers will have used the success to move on to the next promotion, why would they care about what mess they leave behind.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @nick the users pay the cost

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "Britain’s national grid, already under pressure over soaring demand, is facing a new challenge: AI data centres have been given government authority to jump the queue for scarce power connections, ahead of housing development"



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The UK tech energy grab: how AI data centres are delaying the building of new homes
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Ok, small experiment to see if this scales…

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We've developed a new open standard to create the best music experience across multiple devices and rooms. It's called Sendspin.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                You can try it in the latest release of @musicassistant, or try the live demo on our website:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                sendspin-audio.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Let me know what you think!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Going all in with GenAI, the case study.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @GossiTheDog This is the sort of news best described with german loan words...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    In fairness, with GenAI you can accelerate things - eg the business directly into a wall.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    A thing being repeated across businesses worldwide, including at Microsoft, is C level execs struggling to know why most staff aren’t using Copilot for M365, despite how much it costs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Because most staff don’t spend all day in Teams meetings reading out PowerPoint slides to people who pretend to care. They have actual jobs. Doing work. Which they know how to do. Because it is their job.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We are rewatching The West Wing for the nth time, hoping that real life might mirror fiction

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @nick At this rate I’d be happy living in House of Cards even. Frank Underwood may be corrupt but at least he has a plan.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      England's problem with cars and the school run.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      An environmentally-conscious family member took her children to school by car, although it was only a 15 minute walk. Why? Because on the route the road narrowed and there was no footpath (council priorities showing!).
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      One terrifying morning of facing half-awake drivers rushing to work was enough.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      There are some patches for the problem which need initiative and co-operation rather than government intervention.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @sunflowerinrain@mastodon.online encouraging a choice of school also increases the need to take children by car, often no bus is available to an alternative, but this never seems to be measured

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Leeds is making an attempt. But while children are free to attend any school there will always be parents who drive their kids. And that makes it unsafe for all those who are going to their local school so their parents drive them too. I think that's what's known as a feedback loop.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Fans react angrily after Reform’s publicity stunt at Ipswich Town leaves the club facing reputational damage | Peter Thurlow
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @BylinesEast the club has now responded and the fans are angry about that too. And rightly so. I wonder if the US background of the clubs CEO has coloured the response.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @gorsefan From what I'm hearing, I don't think so. The fans have been happy with the way the club has been run. We've put out another article on it today.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @BylinesEast yes, I’m a fan and have been for decades. I meant that the fans were angry about the incident and also the response by the club too. Thank you 💙

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                After the North American daylight saving time shift, I took off for Europe (they haven’t done their move yet) and got my extra hour of morning daylight back for a couple of weeks. Now I’m heading home and am not looking forward to losing it again.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @ghostinthenet@hachyderm.io daylight robbery!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thinking about the time I was in Tokyo on business and I went to a toy store with some Japanese coworkers and we came across a chopstick training game where you have to pick up little plastic soy beans and put them in a cup. They dared me to play it, expecting me to do badly at it, and were very surprised that I did just as well as them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    One quirk of my upbringing is that we had Chinese neighbors, and our families were very close, so we’d host each other for dinner all the time. As a consequence of this they made absolutely sure I was good at using chopsticks, and they’re second nature to me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This ramble brought to you by me treating myself to Panda Express for lunch and always forgetting that I have to specially request chopsticks and literally nobody else here is using them

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also on that same Tokyo trip, one of my US-based coworkers came as well and he decided he’d finally learn how to use chopsticks, and bought kid training chopsticks (like the ones my neighbors shamed me for needing once when I was 7) and he used them at all the restaurants and got such weird looks from all the waiters, because none of them could conceive of adults not knowing how to use something so simple.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Which is to say that it’s worth remembering that not everyone has the same experiences as you and motor skills are acquired, not innate.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So I guess here’s a poll about it: what’s your upbringing with chopsticks and how good are you at them?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @fluffy I'm Asian, and can barely use chopsticks. My extended family in Malaysia call me "the strange Englishman" because of this, and I get a great feeling of imposter syndrome in Chinese restaurants (although they will at least discreetly provide you with a knife/spoon and fork 😁 )

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @vfrmedia @fluffy Absolutely baffled the staff of a joint in Osaka some years ago when I (very Anglo-presenting) was instructing a colleague (very Asian-presenting) in the use of chopsticks. Both of us were raised in the States and it happened I'd learned when I was an undergrad, and he never did for whatever reason.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm curious. For people who have both cats and dogs, at least one of each, how do they interact?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @Fragglemuppet@fandom.ink We had 3 cats, then the dog arrived, they tolerate each other, but I wouldn't say they are friends.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Looking for book recommendations for a precocious 8 year old reader who we got started on @philipreeve.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy - first Adventuremice but since has also devoured Railhead and is onto the Mortal Engines books! I think Sci-Fi is becoming his thing... Ideally books without swearing or sex please!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @sjoy.lol@bsky.brid.gy @philipreeve.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy The Zero Stone

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @sjoy.lol maybe too young, but Beast Quest series (there's tonnes of them). But my boy (now 14) recommended the Cherub series (though not sci fi) which he mainlined a few years back

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @rem thank you!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I am quite keen on the idea of an electric car.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I am less keen on the idea of a car which spies on me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil I hear bicycles don't do that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil You wouldn't jailbreak a car.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil This. I don't think it's restricted to EVs though. I disabled manufacturers network access, and never link car to phone. Don't know how effective this though.... ☹️😡

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil Here's the options on my . Would Private mode work for you?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil Buy an older EV like a Nissan Leaf. My car doesn't spy on me because it doesn't have all the "software" the new EVs have.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Tesla love to spy on anyone. BYD. ? Don't know. Their latest does 600 miles on one charge. 250 miles on a 5 minute recharge.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil There's the rub...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I've been a "car phreak" since I was old enough to walk. I own like a dozen cars... half of them are even on the road and drivable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I used to like all cars. Nowadays, I have zero interest in pretty much anything post ~2010 due to the complexity of trying to maintain it and more and more due to the invasive software and policies in cars newer than around that age.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Some makes and models are better than others. Would I buy a new BMW? LOL, are you serious? Would I buy a new MX-5... Maybe.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                On the electric car front it seems like Hyundai/Kia have the best "normal" electric options in my market (Canada). Would I buy one... maybe... if I had to... I'm more inclined to find a good value used car regardless of propulsion I think.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'd really like something electric as a new (to me) car when the time comes. Not sure I can do it given the software.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                If I lived in the UK I'd probably be all over the Renault 5 / Alpine A290 twins as a daily struggle car. In my market we are stuck with the punitive auto industry BS from the south. It may change but ... we'll see. I have no idea what those cars are like from software or policy though. Maybe I'd walk out of the showroom.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil Btw, if you are really thinking about getting an electric car, check out Jonny Smith's channel on Youtube (The Late Brake Show). He has done a lot of sensible reviews of electric cars over the years and is UK based.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk I'm very happy with my MG4, we also have a 2016 Renault Zoe which can do around 90 miles and has no connectivity

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think beyond a certain date they all spy on you. 2012? Don't know. But that would mean any modern all electric vehicle is another computer on wheels sending telemetry back to its producer and associated advertisers. You'll probably need to ID Verify, sorry 'age verify' to use it at some point.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Some people try to disable stuff but then cars either won't start or it invalidates insurance.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I miss driving and I'd hate to run an old gas gusler, but I'd also hate to have to buy a modern car.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @neil There was an option for a model one up from the EV we bought (MG4), which does have an internet connection. We couldn't justify the extra 10% for the bells and whistles, but now I'm quite happy about that.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        But all cars are part of surveillance capitalism these days, one suspects.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil I got an mg5 a year ago - would definitely recommend. It has a screen for radio and you can connect it to android auto but apart from that it's all physical knobs and buttons and as far as I can tell it's got no internet connection internally.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil I suspect, not that this answers your point, that any new petrol or diesel would likely spy on you to a similar extent. Again, acknowledging the tangential nature of this comment.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @bloor @neil And all the other cars out there bought by people who aren't willing to fight for privacy also spy on you. Also tangential. But yes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @bloor @neil Indeed - was in a petrol rental car last year that wouldn't let me use cruise control not because it lacked the technology, but because it didn't have the right level of subscription set up ...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk Then I can recommend Stellantis. Seems safe to assume that their spyware will be poorly-designed, buggy and unreliable.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil are you in or near any car sharing catchment areas?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil spying aside, I find things like being able to preheat/cool the car to be a huge bonus of having an EV. I have not had to scrape the ice off a car for years. Home Assistant knows our schedule and automatically preconditions the car at the right times. I do wish I could replace the SIM and have the car talk to my own server instead of VW's though, especially since car manufacturers now seem to think it is ok to charge quite high monthly subscriptions to use these facilities!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @steve Well, you can have a standalone auxiliary heating/venting system for Diesel vehicles. I have got one. It doesn't talk to any server, I just pre-program and/or remote control it. (This is not meant to denigrate EV's, I just wanted to chime in on the fact that preheating is not a unique EV feature).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @tobifant presumably only of use when at home though? My car will preheat for things like leaving the pub, driving home from swimming, my wife leaving university in the evening, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ICE vehicles generally use their waste engine heat for heating, so you have to wait until the engine has warmed up before you get any useful heat from them. Conversely, my EV has a 6 kW PTC heater that will get the cabin nice and warm within a couple of minutes and certainly deice the windows in 5.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @steve Well, in the pub scenario, I could hit the remote control like 15 minutes before I leave and the car will be de-iced and warm by then. The auxiliary heating system burns Diesel specifically to generate heat for pre-heating the motor and cabin.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil Let me know if you find one. I am looking to buy a non-spying small EV just large enough for two persons and he weekly shopping in about a year from now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil I do wonder if any of them let you change the SIM/eSIM that they use for gathering that data.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil A few months ago we bought a low milage 2020 Kia Soul. I haven't activated the Kia app so it isn't spying on me. It could still be logging and reporting its location and performance details but it isn't linked to me. Or not directly. Does it collect data from my phone? Possibly but that's registered with a fake name Gmail address I don't use for anything else. Does Kia collect and link data from their dealer who serviced it? 🤔

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil what about the basic ones like dacia?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil As I'm sure you know, it's not just electric cars, it's new cars in general. A breakdown of connected car security issues from a few years back: arstechnica.com/cars/2023/09/c

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Do you have the engineering skill to retrofit an old car with an electric motor? :blobcatthinkingglare:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You could be the guy fixing up a car in their garage AND the kook tinkering on something in their garage! :ablobcatnod:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]thejikz » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @neil I pulled the fuse for wireless tech/onstar in my chevy bolt, so its a "dumb car" but still a sparky car. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]babble encat [she/her] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @neil I'd really vibe with a stick-shift BEV.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Or a hybrid where I could somehow control the power split myself.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Or an automatic with throttle-by-wire and an ECU which simply didn't spy on me 🙄

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Slash909uk » 🔓
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @neil I've had two Leafs (mk.i & ii) Both had an opt-in function when you switched on. Range on the mk. ii is fine (40kWh) mk.i was not so good!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Now I have an eCorsa which does not have an opt-in so I assume it is reporting to base... On the plus side it does not seem to have any features that depend on this.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @neil I for one cannot wait to read a blog post and/or updated Toot with ye answer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It's a question I would very much like an answer for but with not enough drive to replace my 2019 reg car; 5 years into owning a car from basically new feels far too early, maybe I'll actually do it in another 5, we shall see. Cars be expensive

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Rob Baxter » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @neil
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I drive several EVs all part of a car sharing co-op. I am assuming that 100s of people driving the same car really messes with the algorithm.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]CJ Malone » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @neil Every car made in the last 15 years spies on you unfortunately. Electric or petrol.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @neil Whether a car spies on you or not is more about modern vs old analog cars. Modern combustion powered cars spy on you like electric ones do.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Yvan [he/him] » 🌐
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Annoyingly it turns out you cannot change the IP range on a Virgin Hub 5.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So that is a bit of a pain in the backside short term.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Medium term I need to implement my actual plan of placing a BSD gateway box between the home network and the router. But I'm not really prepped for that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Might just raise the old gateway IP on my desktop for now and route via that to the virgin box. IIRC that is a thing that can be done... maybe, my networking is very rusty.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @yvan Do they still offer "modem mode" where all the routing on the hub is disabled and your own router can get the external IPv4 address?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Terence Eden [He/Him/♂/男] » 🔓
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @steve @yvan
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes. My Hub5 is set to modem mode - all DHCP etc is handled by my own router/WiFi box.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Bit of a faff, but better than dealing with the awful UI.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Yvan [he/him] » 🔓
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Edent @steve my plan is to just stick a gateway box with 2 NICs on my side of the Virgin hub with the Virgin box's network its side and my network my side. I'll investigate this "modem mode".

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            For now I am up and running now via the quickest approach I could think of... I raised the old gateway IP on my desktop and set it up to route for the existing internal /24 via the Virgin box gateway. Seems to be working, that took a lot of dusting off old skills lol... seems nothing has really changed since I last used to do this sort of stuff at least (or the "old ways" still work per se). I thought I was getting it all wrong but just for fun the NIC driver for my desktop seemed to be having a moment... couple of kernel panics... yay... reboot fixed that. (A concern for another day, it's just some default on-mobo NIC.)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @yvan@toot.ale.gd @Edent@mastodon.social @steve@prattle.org.uk best to use modem mode otherwise you end up with double NAT which is suboptimal. If you understand networking I would recommend a Mikrotik Routerboard such as the hEX which is a very capable router/firewall.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Yvan [he/him] » 🔓
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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @nick TBF I have run double-NATted setups like that for years previously and it generally seems to be fine, albeit can certainly be a little trickier to navigate/configure for some things... albeit since we moved into our current place we've just used the BT router as I never had time to set things up again properly until now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I shall certainly investigate modem mode options. The Mikrotik hardware looks budget friendly, I can find the hEX in the UK for under 50 quid, which is less than I was expecting to spend on something for this! (Expecting to find some random old hardware on eBay, or stick a second NIC in some random old hardware I have lying around.)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @nick @Edent @steve ah... it looks like maybe this "Hub 5x" I have been issued with does not support modem mode. Will do some more digging, but can confirm I've been unable to find anything about it in the UI. So that's a bit "grumble" really.

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